Let me know what you think. Good morning SARA! usually its tasks related to a larger thing theyve agreed to. Heeeeelllllloooooooo? Thank you !! In American English, "prefer" is a little more formal but still common enough to use in everyday speech. Please let me know when it is complete. Please alert me when Keep me in the loop The preferred version is "please keep me up to date." It's still a strong, polite phrase because we start with "please." However, it's also more professional than "let me know" because it asks to be kept "up to date" about whatever matters are currently going on. No. Nobody sits there and thinks Okay, how can I let them know that I really need to hear back from them on this? They just type Please advise. This is what language is all about, really. 1. Just say, "Please let me know when it's done." March 31, 2012. I am not a fan of please advise either but it is pretty common and probably not meant to sound rude. I was just thinking about do the needful while reading this! 0. I lay out the problem and then ask for advice. They use gentle reminder a lot which drives me batty. I then give background on my question. Or at least there have been, everywhere Ive worked. She was ticked, but it did not stop her. Its not a positive association. Im not religious and Im certainly not a Scientologist but the one thing they got right is that they insist that people know what a word means. Yes, this is how I use please advise. Do NOT leave your belongings at the front desk. He ended the email with please advise. But they wont articulate any of those things you just have to guess. We dont have a parking procedure. I resisted the urge to bang my head on her desk. I will have to watch these. Often I see please advise on an I just described a hilariously tangled or annoying situation email and it generally translates to I dont even know. I almost never use it but I did a couple of weeks ago, because Hello? Because signing off with NOW WHAT PLEASE HELP MEEEE would be inappropriate. I totally agree. The same thing happened at my old job as well! Or sometimes, thanks for reading and mulling this one over. So, yeah, for that the please advise would be super annoying. If the sender shows signs of taking my work for granted in other ways, or is just generally annoying, sometimes the grrr is mentally capitalized, bolded, italicized, and/or underlined. I use Please advise every so often, and I think I basically use it as a step up from Let me know what you think. Specifically, for Let me know what you think, I would consider a lack of preference an acceptable answer. Erm, your phone doesnt make outbound calls? I am sure we have plenty of equally annoying locutions). Oh, of course. I agree it is annoying to listen to. Please advise. And I definitely wouldnt instruct others not to do it, since its really just a personal preference on your part, not a rule thatthey should be following in general. This got me into trouble so many times. If I have to remind you more than once youre probably on my nerves more than I am on yours. Answer (1 of 20): "Let me know where you're at" "Keep me apprised" "Keep me in the loop" "Keep me informed" "Keep me updated" "Advise me when" "Tell me when something changes" To name a few But it does feel like theres a need to end the email with what youre looking for. Im a little behind. It is now on your side of the line. Sue: I like the wool one better. Thank you.. Simply state the query, such as. Early in my career I had a boss who would act super confused when I made a mistake. As a formal alternative, you can try using "kindly inform me if you disagree." "Please tell me if not" works well as a more informal option. Except with the way you worded it, youre implying that your boss *has* to go with one of the three options you came up with as opposed to coming up with their own idea. Hm, Im not sure Ive invented a sufficiently annoying scenario, but hopefully the point is clear. I think we all just laughed and said, Theyll be OK, grandma. Instead, we head to a conference room for almost all phone calls. Is it possible theyre meaning Do you have time for a question? People around here use Can I ask you a question? all the time, and Im perfectly happy to say Nows not a good timecatch me when I break for lunch.. I dont know. So I would just go ahead and blame Outlook every time you see that. Sort of a I cant move forward without a decision., Yes, it can be a little like this is me, putting the ball in your court. Im not crazy about please adviseits a vague and strangely worded requestbut at least its a request! Oh FFS we havent even closed this topic yet and youre diverting the attention to something else? Not a fan. There was pretty much no correct response you could give. I only use this phrase when I am generally asking for advice, not in a snarky way. Just adding a when you get a chance, thanks takes two seconds and is much more polite. But she would write EmilyG, there is no copier paper left, do you know where to order some? Attempt to manage you/assign tasks and they arent your manager? Every time I get an email that ends with please advise I want to send one back that says I advise you to stop ending your emails with please advise! That is the most annoying phrase ever! JMO of course. as an example, someone is speaking at an event, for which we dont pay for, but reimburse for. I totally see how this can be annoying they could at least say please call me at but at my work, for instance, its not always obvious what phone number is best to use to reach a person at a given time. Im hoping you have more important things to worry about. Improve your English! I always take the time to phrase my response as, I advise you to Actually, if any of my direct reports use it, I ask what they mean by it. I have since found it an excellent catch-all phrase for any occasion. And if more emphasis is needed, you could throw in a Please at the beginning. Far better then the AI tools", This website is fantastic. Im more likely to say, Please let me know your thoughts.. No, its not just related to Aspergers! Or if she explained something to you one on one and you seemed iffy, shed ask if you have a doubt. I dont see anything wrong withplease advise. I reserve it for instances in which Im not explicitly asking a question and want to signal that I need a response/guidance. Yeah, its annoying to me for that reason, too. Me: Heres a selection of potential images for the brochure. Please tell us why you want to close your account: Fast corrections and brief feedback from a human editor. One of their common email closings was, Please advise of the needful. i think if aam has taught me anything, its that you can never be 100% sure of anything when it comes to interacting with other people. I love it! managers. I dont see it as passive aggressive at all. It has been an awesome way to improve my English skills. they have to book their own travel (through our agent), send me slides in advance, be available for some conference calls, etc. I used to have to deal extensively with someone brusque, arrogant, demanding, and (based on her emails) borderline illiterate, and she regularly used plz advise. Those additional three keystrokes were apparently just a bridge too far for her. How about Friendly reminder? Option 1 likely will result in this behavior but Option 2 will accomplish this.. I dont use it all the time but will use it occasionally when she has dropped the ball again and pulled a Charlie Brown* on us. Hey! Yes! I admit its hard sometimes giving people the benefit of the doubt especially if they are bratty in person! What time shall we say? No agenda or a brief description nothing. "Please let me know if otherwise" is a grammatically correct phrase that you can use in a professional setting. Its gold when paired with and kindly revert. Because that essentially says, please do this, then undo everything you just did. its only used when i know theyll do it. (I am a webmaster for many sites at my University, and a lot of times people from a department want me to do something to their site that is in conflict with ADA compliance/branding initiative/common sense, so if they dont take no for an answer when I explain why we cant do it that way, I bring in another person of influence, like my boss or someone in charge of university-level site compliance, or the persons own department chair, etc., and then explain the request, the problem with the request, and explain that Im trying to resolve the matter. 0. - Artwork will be emailed to you as a high quality 150dpi JPEG. There's no difference in meaning, but the former is a bit formal and the latter is more common and informal in everyday speech. It feels like I am being asked for my expertise, my opinion, my knowledge. But otherwise, I typically use something that apparently many other people find really irritating: Thoughts?. Every nasty email from our home office bookeeper ends with PLEASE ADVISE. I also hate that phrase, but I think its just because of that particular sender. Im guessing someone will chime in here and have a problem with kind regards. This whole discussion is fascinating to me, because at my current job please advise is used a lot. April 1, 2012. From the Cambridge English Corpus w.attachEvent("onload", loader); This will save me on average X amount of time per day. And if I had to contact them again regarding the same manner, I would just say follow up. Oooh, yeah. :). I had other people read them and they never got angry from my emails, they said my emails read as clear and matter of fact. Please advise.. My last supervisor would copy me on everything, and most times the emails didnt have a question directly related to me so I wouldnt respond. Let me know when you are free in this week to discuss Let me know your convenient time in this week to discuss grammaticality She did not last very long in that job anyway. Or speaking whale a la Dory in Finding Nemo. EmilyG, can you reboot the X server because it appears to be down and I need to work on Y. TIA! was reasonable enough. ", Human who is reviewing my question not automated machine. OMG yes please do the needful makes me stabby. If I was having the chocolate tea pot situation I would write, Please let me know which option you prefer. I feel like more time is wasted when people try to save time on words and instead use please advise. I have a lady who has Thank YOU! (note the application of all-caps) as part of her email signature I read it differently but I dont interact with her on a day-to-day basis so I just suck it up. I really think it depends on company culture. Why did the author use "prefer"? Who cares if someone writes please advise, I honestly doubt they are including it to annoy you. I sometimes use Your thoughts? for the same thing. I have used the kindly requesting bit. Monday . But I do thank them afterwards too. And a section called the hazards of over thinking. I moved from big city to mid-Michigan and West Michigan though. Sometimes I close with thanks for reading. That one bothers me, too! I do as well. If I have to remind you again, it wont be so friendly. Another is when I get an email that contains only call me. Me too. RELATED ( 3 ) let me know your favourite. Yeah, I use it when I cant think of one single question Im asking, but rather Im looking for someones take on how to handle a situation. People arent usually willfully distorting what they read or hear in these situations. Just thought maybe you should be aware that this is happening. but Please Advise means all of those things. All Rights Reserved. With a little picture of Puss in Boots from Shrek, holding his hat and with The Eyes. Back-office folks are often out of touch with what client relationships mean. Although Please advise can seem a bit blunt on its own, like most things it does depend on context and culture. whether you prefer. I was shocked. or 2. I think thats exactly it. There was another word that was used differently than standard American English was it something like presently instead of soon? Id go for something like, Id appreciate your help in this matter. 2 I am sending a communication to our executive team and will need their thoughts on how to proceed. Seems polite, like thanks for reading(? Ask what you mean to ask. 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I also accept Venmo, Cashapp, and Zelle as payment, let me know if you have any questions. I hate please advise! if you will. ?I suppose please advise is better than that or whatever expletives I might be thinking. The original poster sounds like an arrogant primadonna. Need to go to the loo: Im just off to do the needful. How about Friendly reminder? What if it is outside their scope? And Id hope that someone would cut me some slack should I unknowingly pick the wrong set of words. I was already going to do the needful. Please advise doesnt annoy me and I use it myself much the same as Katie The Fed explained in her comment. I mean, what other phrase could you possibly use to indicate that youre ready to help the next person in line? I use something similar. Half the kids in the class were keeping track of how many times she said it. Theyre collectively the absolute worst when it comes to following up on e-mails because they never read them. He sends documents to me to get rid of a blank page (when all it takes is a single backspace to get rid of it) and when he got a macbook I was constantly with him at 30 minutes at a time trying to teach him how to right click or minimize a window, how to locate a file he has saved, etc. Now, someone in IT has figured out how to make all emails related to a conversation *poof* from the entire email network when something like this happens, so nobody has the email anymore to reply to all. Im still unconvinced that it is bad form. Its really good to conserve on Es, so that future generations may have some. But dont you need to reply all with a request to be removed from a group email? Well, it was one way we could make ourselves pay any kind of attention to her. Please advise. It can be At my job only see it used where the person isnt at their regular desk. If you wish to keep things light, you may also get rid of the formalities to make your addressee feel at ease. In-depth corrections and comments from a senior editor. I feel like I am being summoned. Is that incorrect, Sparrow? But that whole make sense? stuff irked me. I counted 154 times in one period. = Question Please tell me where you WENT. I agreed upthread, but since people were disagreeing here, I wanted to +1 the passive-aggressive vibe. I have no problem in theory with please advise, but what bothers me is that it often indicates that someone is coming to me expecting me to solve their problem for them. I love this, and will forever now think of it this way every time I type it. I think its one of those boy who cried wolf situationsi.e., dont use the phrase unless you really, truly are looking for advice or a decision or a response of some sort. 2) People who hijack an email thread for an entirely different topic. Me too. update: is my future manager a bigoted jerk? I think theres probably something to this. 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