Idle speculation at its finest. Kirts knew those backwoods just as good & probably better than Logan didI dunno man, the motive is dead on too (his beast of a girlfriend Garth getting locked up & losing custody of her son because of Libertys dad snitching for jail time easingI first thought this was a serial crimeNow, after looking at a lot more of the detail (& coming in to this in December 21, with most of the pertinent activity already have taken place), Id say chances of it being serial are probably less than 1%. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. How about getting your moneys worth? There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? I believe there a at least a few who suspect this individual. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. The theory is that he was in on these murders for mercenary reasons, such as a malign desire to purchase Ron Logans land. I hope someday this horrendous crime will be solved. true crime garage stitcher 27 Feb. true crime garage stitcher A scenario that fits the timelines and witness accounts is as follows. Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. I thought nobody looked like the BG in the actual video than PB (especially compared to that FB image with a deer)But now, not a chanceKirts fits that mofo better than allIts in the cheeks, the spit, etcThe cops have known for a while its him too I think. Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. The murders all took place inside of a 10 mile radius and all within just 13 months. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 2 /// 510 Part 2 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Did he sleep? What time was RL on video eating pizza? Also, the props were put at the scene later too, perhaps after the girls were killed. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. He cant even drive a car! Im actually a rather shy, introverted, cautious, and extremely polite person who is terrified of making people mad, getting called creepy, offending people, etc. Also its very hot here and all I feel like doing is sleeping all the time. Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). He raped women, not young teenage girls. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. Copyright 2023 Apple Inc. All rights reserved. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. @Chris Paul(Phoenix)- Mr. X did not have PIV sex with either girl. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. No, the other girl was also having sex with males and she also had a boyfriend. The only case I am familiar with is the Bittaker-Norris Murders in Southern California. The February 2017 killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi has drawn international attention. BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. But where is the incentive for me to comment publicly if you are just going to try and discredit it? Kline was not arrested until more than three years later. Little if any good information comes out of these places. I find your blog very interesting. Good question Jess. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. Its a new development in a story News 8 was the first to report last week. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail. Thats because he was competition. He killed a woman. We think they were working in a packing plant in the Delphi area and then were transferred to a sister plant in the Evansdale area. The rumor is that his alibi is a Delphi police officer, Nate Allen, who committed suicide in December. We also dont know the name of the hotel or motel that they stayed in. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. White scarf covering the lower half of his face. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? And I seriously doubt that any of those POIs have access to all of those sensitive case documents or that any of them have a personality like that. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! Believe it or not that is another QP. 9) He has killed before. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable. Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs. BG made a deep cut to the throat of one victim, probably with a hatchet, that resembles the deep cuts made to the throats of pigs at some slaughterhouses. Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. Do you think the POI drove to the Mears lot immediately after the crime or left the area? I hav followed both cases very closely. At least some people like me. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls guardians. CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. One of his many interesting hobbies was abducting and raping young women. The guys and Skip talked about DPs place within the timeline on the day of the murders, went into some details about his role in regards to a supposed "couple arguing" under the bridge within minutes of the time of the murders, and the woman involved in his alleged alibi. The Delphi Murders Live Special Guest Skip Jansen No views Sep 24, 2022 Tonight I will welcome my special guest Skip Jansen as we discuss current events going on in the Delphi case.. Wheres the rest of it? In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. Hes afraid hes going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear. Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. I ask this because another theory says they could have gone up the creek to a barn and then they should have dry clothes. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home. . Hasnt he suffered enough? He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. Not sure why that is. A pair of binoculars. Curious after listening to the down the hill podcast. Ron Logan: Enough already. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. Even if somehow she didnt know about some surrounding neighbors, couldnt LE just show her (or FSG or the bickering couple in the park etc,) a pic of Mr. X and get verification that way? 2023 CIRCLE CITY BROADCASTING I, LLC. Schon lange engagiert sich Bruder Lukas Ruegenberg fr Roma in Habe (Slowakei). Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. Ive never heard about all these details this is crazy. The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any. The fact that I believe LE has been busy trying to cover up the mistakes they made early on leads me to believe that they inadvertently helped BG get away with this horrendous crime and continue to do so by withholding almost every piece of information possible from the public, while at the same time begging for that one tip they need to make an arrest. This family member may maintain a different surname, by generation, but they are in fact, related! If I happened to be out that day lets say partying or doing some stuff that maybe I shouldnt have been doing, and I witnessed something and had information Im telling you right now, I would think twice, then I would think two more times before I would even consider coming forward because I would be scared shitless that LE would throw my ass in jail for something completely unrelated just like they did to RL. Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. If you had to posit how many folks are involved here with your theory, i.e. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? I have no inside info, never been to the area and cant pretend Im going to solve the case. I don't think it was directly addressed in the episodes, but are you able to speculate on what degree of premeditation (if any) would your theory would have required on the part of your suspect? Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. Then there is always the question of his occupation. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509. We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. Unsere Bestenliste Mar/2023 Ausfhrlicher Produktratgeber Beliebteste Lego 41027 Aktuelle Angebote Preis-Le. I saw this being explained in some YT comments to a bunch of brainlets. The document states, for no apparent reason, that the girls were both abducted at 2:13 PM. Thank you for stopping by the site. I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? He just wanted dirty pictures. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. The end goal here is justice for Abby and Libby. . Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13. Kline was supposed to be in court Thursday, but a judge canceled the appearance. The killer in the unsolved Delphi murders is believed to have moved and staged the victim's bodies and taken a souvenir from their 2017 slayings, according to newly-surfaced police documents . How bout taking it to heed, everyone? However, some people are stupid enough to sue even when they are guilty. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2019/09/20/support-beyond-highbrow/. Give it a rest, dammit! We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. It was all over by 3:30. Then again, what if it wasnt? Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! Etc. I dont get internet drama but everyone seems to have stronger reactions both for and against when dp gets brought up than anyone else. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. Its at his home on a shelf! We can look into any case we want! They act like Im sort of deranged psychopathic maniac whos a danger to women and children. Person of Interest is a much higher standard than unnamed suspect, and he hasnt even risen to that level yet. Thats all you can do is refine the theories you have and check stuff off your list with the little info we have been given. Mehrfach war er vor Ort, um den dort lebenden Menschen Hilfe zukommen zu lassen. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. Underwear, possible two pairs, was found in the river. The search warrant list a number of items that LE is looking for. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. Welcome to the site! But my opinion isnt worth anything. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. 10) Regarding crime scene: Red herrings to throw off law enforcement. DELPHI New chilling details have emerged involving the Delphi deaths investigation. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Sure hes a greedy businessman, but I doubt if hes that greedy. This is NOT a show about DP or that theory. Hes innocent. They were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, Fox59 reported, which is part of the Delphi. Anyway, pastor in a Pentecostal church would be a perfect place for a man like that because those religious people dont care much about Alpha, Beta, and all that stuff. And although hes no no saint, I dont think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. I'll be more than happy to provide you with any info you need privately. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. We have 250 members in our group. Chemicals used in an attempt to hide fingerprints. Or just working in cahoots? However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. He hunted deer on RLs land all the time. So I held off. The point is that that Mr. Holder had nothing to do with this crime. I read through it early on, saw interesting stuff and then later came back and tried to find the interesting stuff but got lost. Like a coward, we would add. Ive looked this man over and I cant think of anyone less likely to commit this crime. Just thought I would draw your attention to it. Maybe he did, maybe he didnt. But after reading all of this my personal opinion I think 3 people are involved. Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. @Skip I see hot, humid conditions. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? At the very least he could have made misleading statements. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. DELPHI, Ind. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. So the guys had a "Skip Jansen" on the pod to discuss a new suspect who is considered a suspect by LE but not named to the public. He stopped for gas and cigarettes. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. Want me to put it up anyway? This has helped me a lot. I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. DELPHI, Ind. Thanks for your time. We believe him. Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. Keep at it, guys! Better to let your officers go home for a few hours so theyd be ready for work the next morning. BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. While we see a giant plush bear, thats too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. Delphi police and the prosecutor's office said a public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. Are there any screenshots of these alleged changing stories from DP, Cheyenne, and others discussed in this podcast? If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. The last thing they need is this motley crew invading their town. 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LE blew off their concerns and called off the search, citing safety concerns for the searchers but seemingly had little of the same concerns for the missing teens who could have been severely hurt and unable to help themselves, just waiting for someone in LE to find them that night. She was emphatic about that. There are cases like this all over the country. Thats going to be very hard for him to explain. He was married to Becky Pattys sister at the time, and I believe it was about a week afterwards that she posted on social media her husband was a monster then deleted it. The family knew something was wrong. Im leaving it at that. DP's appearance is a cross between the two sketches. 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