One guy showed up with his brother, cooked one meal, and then they sat on their butts and didnt lift a finger for five goddamn days while partner and I did all of the cooking, cleaning and tidying. Hrm. Then if the friend wants to, she can suggest you come to her house but if shes not up for that, she can decline altogether or agree to meet up elsewhere without feeling like she was put on the spot. At least my friends ask, but we make plans to meet at a specific time, me and a few friends, and invariably one of them will text the host and say hey, Im ready, can I come over now? and its, like, 3 hours early. Id agree its worth checking in with your friend, LW, to say something like hey, I didnt mean to intrude the other day and Im sorry that I did. I was already aware that he was inclined toward putting his own needs first in pretty much everything, but this disclosure was a doozy. They think if someone hasn't been invited to something they shouldn't try to force the issue. And no expectations of hospitality or cleaning, just hey, was passing and saw you were home! It was always tacitly acknowledged that it was literally a Hi/bye!. A lot of people were raised in families where avoidance of awkward situations is the only model they know, so they just dont have the communication tools to do anything else. For sure! The guy had the kind of job that involved getting up before dawn and he was already in bed he wasnt super impressed, and thats when I started really thinking about whether it was OK to just drop in on people not everyone has the same schedule as me. I'm currently working with clients who live in Ontario, Canada: Copyright 2006-2023 SucceedSocially.com. Imagine a group of coworkersor classmates or casual acquaintances you know from your board games group or whatever are discussing their weekend plans. In some cases, it might intimidate the guys, since in this situation you are the one leading the dance. Youre right, I was oversimplifying I didnt mean to invalidate your experience. Allowing others to praise you instead of praising yourself is far more rewarding, and your humility will help you gain the respect of everyone around you. But thats my own 2 cents on the topic. Maybe he honestly was en route to shower with rubber duckie and towel, but, well. ", (Hearing about a party an acquaintance is throwing) "Sounds like fun. Absolutely agree. Members of my family have actually used my disorganization as the butt of jokes (probably out of the misguided belief that they can embarrass me into becoming a neat freak), and then they wonder why I refuse to let them into my home. Let it drop now, and eventually you may become good friends with this person and have the pleasure of building their KALLAX. Obviously I am not the friend LW is referencing here, but having a friend of mine ask me if they could drop by for a hug while I was at work on a regular basis would be an issue. Sorry if this doesn't work but it might. We had made plans to watch a show but hadnt specified an exact time (he was assuming normal end-of-my-workday time). If I could find an excuse, I felt guilty about turning her away. I try to host people in my home every so often just so that I have the excuse/motivation to do this kind of cleaning which I then enjoy all by myself for several days after. My SOs (large, close knit) family is terrible for this, especially since my SO is building a house right now and we have an adorable newborn baby. If the plans have nothing to do with me at all I have no trouble listening in and being happy for people doing fun things. Cocktail outings are one thing, because oh, Ill just pull up an extra chair is hard to argue with. You can find other people who mesh with how you like to do things by being that person and modeling the behavior. I think its a good time to keep the recounting of the event to yourself. really, i would be careful of discussing plans you made with someone who wasnt invited, partly to avoid hurting their feelings, and partly because, as someone else mentioned, its just not that interesting if youre not involved. 2. This discussion is squicking me out because it is introducing doubt where there doesnt need to be any. Then she's probably looking for an exciting night between the sheets. I already add a fair number of caveats to my speech, my precise meaning often misunderstood. Hey, you seem upset, is everything OK? But thats not whats happening here. The end. Friend: Oh great! I dont mind close friends stopping by, especially if they call/text/email first to let me know theyre in the area. Anything that takes preparation on the part of the host or organizer, or even costs them money, is iffy. Good one AthenaC! This happens here every. If I dont know someone is comming the floor will probably be under a few layers of clothes and I might be unable to socialize at the moment, even if I would have loved to hang out if I had gotten time to mentaly prepare for it. Side note in regards to the hosting habit as something that is not done AT other people but is really about the host: Remember those episodes of FRIENDS when they switched apartments and Monica was desperate to have people come to the apartment she was in because she loved being the one who hosted? Because they were not ones to take a hint. Come up with a reason why you want to come over. I love playing host, its true, but I use that phrase consciouslyplaying host. Its a role that I choose to put on, and it is not one that I would expect (or want!) Bye have fun! It still doesnt necessarily reflect your relationship with someone though. Your cousins tantrums are telling you something, here. I dont think either method is wrong, but its hard to make them compatible. Clutter is one thing trying to (unsuccessfully) clean up after 7-, 14-, and 44-year-old males in my house is something completely different. The soft invite is way too easy to brush off, especially with the level of over-scheduling that exists at certain socio-economic levels. She whined about it to someone else, who told me about it. Basically: asking in advance/leaving your buds/acquaintances the option to refuse is always always always the safer choice in my opinion. If you are going to be in the neighborhood, and would like to meet up with someone who lives there, I might suggest a call or a text like Im going to be in your part of town, on Wednesday. On the one hand, I would hate it if any but my closest of close friends were to show up on my doorstep and want to hang out. If a bunch of friends are seeing some kind of movie or concert, where it doesn't really matter how many people come along or not, and the attitude is often "the more the merrier", it's probably okay to ask if you can join. Er yes, you have? WITHOUT offering up an alternative or making a visible effort to make something happen. Speaking for myself, personally, a same day text or phone call that says Im going to be in your area, are you free to hang out later for a bit? from a friend is more than fine but an unannounced and unexpected knock on my door, like, Hi, Im already here here to hang out with you! is pretty strange. For any other reason just tell the truth, tell her you want to watch your favourite movie with her or cook together or whatever that may be of interest for the both of you. Inviting yourself over to someone's house for dinner? Hope to catch up soon. And then let her be the next one to reach out. I felt like this was sort of a default thing that everyone did until I met a friend of a friend and we became semi-close. Bye everyone. Nothing wrong with hanging out for a while after to see if the person is free after, but when it starts stretching into 45 minutes of that persons professional obligations you need to take a hint. I am never trying to go along with them to a place they were already going/were. Which, actually seems a little counter intuitive, because youre asking them to make an additional effort to hang out with you, instead of you just tagging along, or showing up, they have to put on their going outside pants. A lot of it probably is the presumption of intimacy of showed up at my house compared to showed up at my work. My bathroom at home is also the guest bathroom and I kind of want to tidy up slightly embarrassing but totally normal hygiene products before someone uses it? She ran into the same person a couple of weeks later and it turned out it was a dinner party, she was the sixth guest, they waited two hours for her and dinner was ruined. Oh god yes. I had a housemate once who was hosting a bridal shower for a mutual acquaintance, and it was supposed to be at our house. Of course, these are people who I am not close to or do not like very much, and who I would have a hard time saying no to/will not accept I am busy and we cannot visit now as an acceptable answer. The short version, LW, is: Always ask. Your presence will glorify this party. It also depends on how involved the last-minute thing Im invited to is. Im from a small, rural town, and in my small-town culture, people would routinely drop by your house if they were passing by and saw your car in the driveway, especially if you were close to them. I wouldnt assume stop by for a hug means needy at all, so long as thats something the LW previously asked for/negotiated with her friend. So no. I personally would lean toward expecting people at least 5-10 minutes early or late and talk to them if they go beyond that and its a problem. I can usually drop by before moving on to my next event. So Ill just tell her we have to go in two minutes, so please start picking up. I absolutely dont want to be visited at work, ever, by anybody. Back in my teens if I was too anxious/busy/unpresentable to talk to an unannounced house caller I would either not answer the door or ask my parents to say I was out. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Were all moving to different cities now so I guess it wont be a problem any more with that specific group. I am just offering another perspective on the need for advance notice before a visit because the LW was having trouble understanding why thats a thing people would want. 2. Plus, this way, your fun activity is already planned out. My ideal is a phone call from a passenger as the driver gets close, or a phone call by the driver from the loading zone. And this has been proven time and time again. When I asked him about the surprise invites, his reply was, I thought it was efficient to get all my social obligations taken care of at once. Thats an attractive quality. However, as long as I have time to grab a shower and put on my going outside pants, you arent really imposing here. You go on a date and have a great time; you hang out, drink, and have a nice time, but he is not asking you to come over. If again he is a gamer, you could suggest you want to have a game night at his house. In general, I think friends should communicate about and establish the status quo on this matter at the point in their relationships where they are going over to each others houses routinely. Here are some of my favorite ways to invite myself. Besides, youre awesome and you deserve specific plans made to hang out with you, you are worth peoples going outside pants. So hell come back! As someone who NEEDS a lot of being-away-from-other-humans time, I am deeeeeply unhappy when someone just shows up at my door. It drives me up the wall too! They are not uncivilized roobs its just the norms of the very casual social culture in which they travel. Goodbye, next time call a day or two in advance and we can schedule something.. Since then, I always ask my family if they want me to come or us both if theyre not clear about it. So, the reason I phrased it like this is, when Im at school, Im normally hanging out at the smoke pit with 10+ other people. My French teacher taught me a great saying (in English, no less!) I'm not sure about your apartment or home, or whether you and the guy are both single, but when a guy invites you over to his place, the most obvious explanation is that he's planned sex for the evening. They were birdwatching haunts). But something like a board game night or a party where everybody but one person was invited, yeah Id avoid that because it seems mean. Examples: On the link below you'll find a training series focused on how to feel at ease socially, even if you tend to overthink today. 1 pm. My phone was broken so I couldnt text, and I guess the sign of the times is that I didnt even think to use the landline! Heres the difference between your pet peeve and the pet peeve of the person youre replying to. Some people get really ticked off about the idea that I can CHOOSE whether to answer my door/phone/text/email, and that just not wanting to interact at that moment is a good enough reason not to answer.. In more structured situations (like my wedding) they arrived in event-appropriate attire with their inside voices intact, consistent with their middle class upbringing and higher education level. I agree I dont want someone showing up at my house unexpectedly without calling ahead. If he is informed properly ahead of time he wont be able to cancel on you with some lame excuse that he has had other plans, that his apartment is messy or that you have not told him prior to that. I am sitting here listen to someone honk their horn every 20 seconds for, I dont even know, 5 minutes? Also works for anything else youve been asked to schedule in advance. In some circumstances it may be totally fine to invite yourself to an event where on paper it would seem like a stupid idea. Im fine. But with more scheduling and perhaps busier roads and less societal tolerance for kids walking somewhere by themselves, maybe the amount of arranging that a kid can take on at a given age and ability level has decreased. Its work, which is a coworkers and customers and me place, and unless the friends also happen to fit into one of those categories I dont want to see them. For me I think the drop-by depends on how lengthy and intrusive of a visit its going to be. Its not a thing where assumptions will actually pay off. Or by initiating contact in some other way? Excellent advice from the Captain. If people want to hang out with you, my experience has been that they will issue an invitation, either generally to the entire group (Were meeting at the bar after kickball, everyone is invited) or specifically to me (Were going to the Pun-Off after kickball. I can definitely see where youre coming from with all this. Yeah. When will it be? Part of the home visit dread in my life is the potential endlessness of it. Im also a huge introvert, but I dont care if people show up at my work because work is People Time. It would be lovely to not have fear and anxiety due to an upbringing that showed me that I had no right to privacy, and choices or control over my life. Theyre terribly nice like that they understand that it makes me uncomfortable, and so they dont put me in that position anymore. The best option is to talk to him about it, see what his expectations might be, and then decide what you are comfortable with. noticing the feeling Yet because these folks are in my social orbit, its pretty obvious that if they want to make time for some other activity or person (not necessarily even a friend) they can usually manage to find it. And Im usually ok w/ that. 1. Ahhhh! This may help put to rest frustrations I sometimes feel about issues where my preference runs counter to that of most people. (And the good thing is you can be like Im going to be in the CBD today, who wants to get lunch? or can someone come visit me this week and Ill make cookies, studyings driving me up the wall.). Not spotless at all times or anything, but an arbitrary level of not disgusting. It is like the puzzle Geordi wasnt allowed to send the Borg ship. Books take some time to finish, so if he invests that time in an interest that you have, that may mean he likes you. Followed by pedicures and an outdoor screening of Clueless? Does she ever reciprocate, either by visiting you or by explicitly inviting you? You: There is a court at my place. Its why some older houses on real estate listings have reception room in addition to lounge. I mean, sure, some people might, if theyre really nice and interested in pretty much everything. Anyway, its experience that suggests to me that his anger, the lack of proportion in its expression, and the total non sequitur of you not respecting his work (Ive shown up early at peoples work, they tell me to grab a magazine and wait) when hes not working, is 100% not about you. Because theyre way closer friends with me than him. I DO think its possible that being someones designated hug-person could get a bit claustrophobic, especially if you are not on for touch stuff all the time. SERIOUSLY this is a big one for me. So a man who came by during those hours would be required to stand on the porch or at most in the foyer and state his business. Newly married. If the friend did just knock on their door, then sure, some guidance on boundaries is probably needed, but if the LW asked in a way that allowed the friend to gracefully decline the invitation, then thats already expressing respect for boundaries and the friend is possibly overreacting by calling them out on it. We talked about boys, sex, parents, money, school. Our neighborhoods were close, and on frequent routes of travel between work/school/watering holes. I called her up, hey, Id love for you to come, havent heard back, let me know. When they said, You shouldve come! about some past event, I would say (cheerfully! Day of, Ill send him a text asking hey is today still ok or should we reschedule. This situation really shook me. It hurts so much, LW, and Im so sorry this is happening to you. I wasnt invited (I know I wasnt, because I helped housemate put together the cute gingham ribboned cards while watching dancing with the stars). We should still be friends!. And if he invites you over or comes to keep you company, then you are a clear winner in this situation. Unsolicited doorbell Ill never answer but texting from the viscinity I feel like I can easily refuse, Sorry, not a good time, maybe next time or sure, lets meet at the cafe though, my house is a mess. He moved cities for me. . Home vs. work,surprise! vs. planned, andyou inviting yourself vs. her inviting you,speak to escalating levels of intimacy. Good for you for making them fix it. If one is expecting the host to do all the work, thats just lazy and rude IMO. NONE OF THE REST OF YOU ARE INVITED. Pretty sure it didnt slip their mind. If you are super-handy and you want to help, you could throw that out there, I love an allen wrench. Im the same way. Other people find it a very productive way to be, however. My current circle has enough meetups coordinated through non-Facebook means that I dont mind missing the occasional Facebook-only one, but when I lived in a different city with a different social circle I actually picked one person I was closer to and asked her to be my Facebook mole If you see a whole-group invitation go out via Facebook, could you email me about it? Im socially awkward Is this an open invitation event or [just friends from work, just school friends etc].. You should come by the house later!. I didnt want to post this in response to any one person, but Im a little confused by the way the definition of shame clean seems to be expanding? Ideally they text you when theyre on the way so you know when to be ready, so you can just be waiting for them anyway. Ring the doorbell Definitely not specifically British; my knowledge is patchy, but I know of no place in either Canada or the States where it is assumed to be broadly okay to interrupt people at work. Or kids may not be up to remembering that they cant schedule for X day/time because actually theyre supposed to be doing something else that was scheduled ages ago; yay timetable clashes! I want you to keep that AC running. Ive often considered having a certain day be my at home day, as was common in the Regency period. Im also really careful not to ask my daughter for her preferences unless I really plan on taking them into consideration. So anyone else asking for hugs is probably gonna be met with side eye. 1.6. Please just. Just as we should all do our best to remember that judging people for a less-than-Monica-level clean home is not OK, its also sort of uncool to judge the Monicas of the world. With only girls? Some of my mothers friends assume that its only polite to call when youre in the area and see if they want to hang out, and some of my generation shame-clean less than other people. So just read on and you will be ready to win the guy over. His dads Belgian and his mums Irish and he grew up in Ireland but went to university in Belgium and hes been working in Austria for the last five years but he spends a lot of time in Ireland and I have NO IDEA which version he was using and I dont have his phone number!. Even before then shes become increasingly distant and Ive been getting the impression that if Im not in her life in a certain way, she doesnt have space for me. We have no enemies!. Some will even have the gall to ask if they can bring groups of their friends mind you, these are people Ive never met before in my life so that I can fucking host a group of strangers on my vacation! I have pretty much had it. This was a bigger issue for my girlfriend at the time, but after a certain time hospitality would dictate that we offer food or drink, which extends the visit and expends house resources. And your expectations sound like theyre probably just fine. I want to live in the world of calling cards. I am definitely guilty of the are we still on thing. In my case, when I finally was the one to make the clean break after being led on, she cried and wanted forgiveness and blamed me for not forgiving her. I mind people looking at my mess! Sure, you dont have to manage peoples feelings, but planning a movie marathon for you, Chewy, Chip, and Fred when Dale and George are sitting with you and generally part of the gang seems oddyou do have peoples numbers and know how to use the group message function? So I think the checking day of to make sure things are still ok is a person to person thing. I hold the one doing the rejecting responsible for being clear. When I really wanted to connect with someone, I used to read the soft no as a problem that I could solve, like, Oh, thats not a problem, I can come to you instead! I will deliver the free comic books to your house, along with ice cream, and that random vacuum cleaner part you once mentioned in passing that you needed! I looked at the reason for the refusal and ignored that it was a refusal.. There was a short and unpleasant phone conversation, and I mailed her a new invite. I suppose the modern equivalent is mostly not responding to a text for six hours and then going whoops, phone was off. Just wanted to say that as someone with a (diagnosed) anxiety disorder and various other other mental health issues who had their teen years in those days/that sort of a culture, I also miss them. Calling me from the car as you sit in my driveway, However, if I am waiting for you to pick me up, please do not text me to say you are waiting. Note, your friend might just want a bit more space generally it might not be anything about your friendship, they might just be a bit stressed with life generally and want to claw back some control/mental space/holiday/have a break whilst redecorating/re-training, and they might be back with enthusiasm later. Like you could ask how about a homemade meal and the latest movie at your place on Saturday night?It takes guts to ask that question and be sure to know what to wear to his place for dinner. So, if you dont want to come on too strong or you feel shy to do it, use these little tips to indicate to him that you want some private time bonding. My life doesnt accommodate drop-ins, and if any of my friends did that, Id ask them not to. Oh, Ill come round to yours on Sunday at 3pm! becomes me and the husband anxiously Cleaning All the Things and then she doesnt turn up until half 5, by which time were usually gearing up to prepare the evening meal! Her depression means that sometimes shit just doesnt get done, but her mental and physical health outweigh the need to vacuum or wash up. Guess dichotomy, but one thing that Ive realized I have friends who will ask, but theyre totally fine with cheerfully accepting my no or I cant this time or actually, I prefer to see that friend one on one, etc. See Id totally get that we should do this! doesnt actually mean it until you make specific plans, but as soon as someone actually mentions a day Id assume its something that is almost certainly going to happen and we just need to confirm the time. they just didnt want me there. Are you also taking the initiative to plan things with friends? I wish the african violet idea had been around back then. On your FAMILY vacations?? Shes also introverted with a limited social energy budget. The group just assumes everyone understands the unwritten open invitation. I kind of describe myself as an introverted extrovert. Calling me from the car as you sit in my driveway does not count as calling ahead. ). NEVERRRR, Its just that my family builds onion layers of forbidden feelings, and it was impossible to guess which ones you were supposed to notice & do something about and which ones didnt exist. Yeah, his reaction was so weird. Whatever actually made him angry (my tortured hypothesis, simple embarrassment at being caught not working, sheer cussedness) was probably very hugely not about you. Organising the social lives of 6 year olds when you dont know the other parents is a pain. The reason is that I didnt invite you. To me, it matters what sort of event it is. A lot. Instead of spending time wondering how to invite her back to your place during the date, strategize before the date by choosing a dinner spot that is close to home . and if someone who has acted like were the best of friends doesnt invite me to something i would have expected to be invited to, and then proceeds to talk about it non-stop in front of me and acts like were still super close? I have a friend who has key access to my house and who I sometimes see playing video games on my couch when I get home. I just didnt realize that when someone starts coming down on you hard for doing something as innocuous as dropping by at the wrong time, the problem isnt with the etiquette rule; its with the relationship. Oh, great! In this situation there's likely an unofficial standing offer where anyone who's interested can show up. Just because someone says you did something wrong doesnt make you a stupid or wrong person, and it doesnt even make what you did wrong. Even if Im entirely comfortable not being included in a particular plan, Ill feel uncomfortable saying things like that sounds fun/Is it for a special occasion or just hanging out because Ill worry that the other person might think Im fishing for an invitation. [deleted] 11 yr. ago. Not saying you shouldnt ask, but be aware that its not always going to end in the clear communication youd like it to. We have talked about this. So maybe but I guess will never know. If you drop by unannounced you have deprived me of my sea shell soap and my famous bourbon blondies! Their DNA will be rearranged to spell people are different, try to tactfully and honestly ask whats on their mind. Has their baby barfed on me/Do we spend a lot of time in each others houses? Weekend, so chance to sleep in and do chores. Walk up to my door You might be one of them. This is even with close friends/my best friends! for interacting with friends; call it a friend-state. Im pickier about when I want to hang out if we werent already doing so, but asking even 10 minutes beforehand greatly increases the chances of me wanting you to come over, because then I have time to switch to social mode rather than ack, an intruder in my happy little introvert bubble, go away mode. In this case, it is best to create a situation he cant say no in. I dont know if there are specifics that make that difficult to implement in this case, or if its just not the norm in your social group, but in many groups its a common social convention that a lot of people follow anyway. But thanks. If you were invited, youd already be invited. I mean, I dont want to live in a way that allows for friends to stop by without cleaning for hours. Let me know how that goes does actually more than just not asking to invite you. If Im doing my stuff and dont have the emotional currenncy to make awkward small talk with an acquaintance in the street Ill darn well duck behind a tree and hide. . True, it is rude to ask about money with new acquaintances, but this someone who had in the past gone over every detail of her budget with me and to whom Id loaned money and given money to so she could visit. If someone in your social circle is throwing a. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. At this point, with another adult, I would definitely stop asking until I got some kind of positive movement from the other party. Either she isnt interested in the friendship, in which case you pulling back will make everything easier and less painful for both of you, or she does want to be friends but minus surprise visits, in which case you are giving her space to reach out and make the kind of plans with you that she would actually enjoy. Personally, Im totally fine with friends just showing up at my house. I love tacos. If they say any form of Thanks, but or That wont work this time because (reasons) or Aw, I wish I could but I have to. The way I found to get kids my daughters liked to come over was to have a ten minute scheduling convo with the parent: get as explicit as possible about times that work well for you, and times that never work, and ask specifically about their times, and then hammer it home. Get a small to medium sized bag for your things. 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