i saw a video where Shanann was making protein snacks with that thrive shit and said they were for the whole family to eat. Thank you so much for providing all of the analyzation and conclusion because it defines this case as it was and is. True R63. murdered both kids, killing the one though she fought him, I think it's safe to say he wasn't interested in being a parent AT ALL. She would terrify me. The alienation, the excuses shes having a bad day, all of it. What was their age difference if he met her while she was still in high school? Only they know, but I bet that is the case. She was a compelling personality. Everyones awful. Its very clinical and he doesnt sound like he has real empathy for what they went through. That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. Which is what no one can explain. I sure hope he does. She and the kids would still be alive and he wouldn't be spending the rest of his life in jail. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. TONS of clothes. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. Your latest Netflix obsession has arrived. Directed by Jenny Popplewell, the 82-minute true crime film uses social media footage and text messages to establish the appropriate context for the familial dynamics. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. Its something Borderlines do, although I dont think she was one. Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. How wrong we all were. ^ to be fair, Trent Bolte has them all beat in the crazy department. Otherwise they can claim whatever and whos to say they are lying? Those girls probably ate it all the time. I would love to hear about shanann's personality from her call center colleagues. LEONARD was unable to get details from her. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. Colorado takes moving, and parental alienation, very seriously. And thats saying a lot. In the August, 2018 video, Chris was was stunningly buff. Im not saying she killed anyone, but I think she goaded him. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com, Husband appears shackled in court after the bodies of his missing pregnant wife and their two daughters whom he confessed to killing are found at the Colorado oil field where he worked, Was husband who killed his pregnant wife and kids bitter over her sudden success? She went through three first names. Watts, who had initially reported them missing and had made a public plea for their return, was arrested as he admitted to killing them. Please click here to register for free. Like Bunnika. Spot on r147. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. She stayed at home all day gaming while her wife worked full time at Kohls. And isnt it a fucker that the Topix forums went away? Shanann was married to Chris Watts from November 3, 2012, till the time of her death on 13 August 2018. True, r35. Just the fact that she texted a friend, mulling about where to move should they divorce, (but not NC for some reason) tells me she was used to getting her own way. She was pretty smart with her lupus act, because, like fibromyalgia, it has broad diagnostic criteria that mostly depends on patient reporting. He did not receive a warm welcome when he reunited with them in NC. No wonder Chris was amazed with NK. At first, Watts' husband, Chris Watts, agreed to TV interviews, where he appeared torn up over their disappearance and begged for their safe return. Shanann Watts was about 15 weeks pregnant when police say her husband, Chris Watts, killed her and their girls Monday, Aug. 13, 2018. crap but that is highly unlikely as MLMs are notorious for not producing actual living incomes for their dupes. Mother of Bella Marie Watts; Celeste Cathryn Watts and Nico Lee Watts R136. My god, as much as I cannot stand Shannan, Jennifer and Sarah Hart were much worse! Chris was a real bore, apparently. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. R141 Your boy was fucked with or without the nosy friend. WTF?!? I truly hope a movie is made of her in an honest light. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. I assure you i am not a moron. Fact: Hisham Bedwan, co-owner and Shananns boss at Dirty South joked around with Shanann during one of her FB Live videos. The two met in 2010 when Chriss Lee Watts was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Text messages obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request by the Daily Mail show Shanann Watts was trying to save her marriage in the weeks before her husband, Chris Watts, murdered her and her two daughters. Does anyone know if hes made any statements or has spilled any tea? Chris had a gold policy through Anadarko. He is now Assistant Public Defender Leonard T. King in Laurinburg, NC.The day Chris confessed to her murder, Shananns ex-husband spoke with police and told them the following about their marriage. Talk about flood irrigation! Chris Watts. Menu. Lupus usually involves disease and loss of major organs. Rims, tinted windows, etc. I do not like her, but I can see why she was a breath of fresh air for Chris. 05:02 GMT 17 Aug 2018 Its for a specified amount of time I believe. Shes the most interesting one, isnt she? So is Sandra referring to new debt that Shanann told her about? I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. Two days later, he was arrested in connection with their deaths. The discovery docs included an interview with the ex. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. She wanted the large house. She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. And its interesting to see how people defend her nauseating videos (it was for her JOB!) and bitchiness to her husband and children (I boss my husband. Doubtful, and is most likely the second (or third or fourth) time Shanann lies about medical costs to cover her ridiculous spending habits. Jesus Christ dangling from the cross what is wrong with some of you. Dirty South is a custom car shop. The following day, Chris spoke with local media outlets from . She shared every fucking thing on social media. Nothing suspicious, just a little nest that most single women working in retail buy. Does that mean my husband should kill me, too?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! And charged all the furnishings on credit. Chris would have been on the hook for everything. ". But THEN, I saw her have a combination Lularoe clothing party and Pro-Bar taste testing party. As an adult, your identity basics, like first name, are already established. He had already been contacted by NBC News. At least the Watts kids had a good life while they had one. She was a grifter with her buddy Hashem. Just saying, R244 Like that YouTube family whose kid died of a random heart or brain condition and they livestreamed his funeral "for the fans". He admitted to that. I asked LEONARD about his relationship with SHANANN. He said they hadn't spoken since they split and he didn't even know her current name. So thats why there was so much debt.. 25 Feb/23. Yes, too little to late on her end. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 44K views 3 years ago Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking. (Colorado Bureau of Investigation) The husband looks hot, she's not, R3, whoever she is. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. American Murder: The Family Next Door quickly brings viewers inside the world of the Watts family, thanks in a huge part to pictures, posts, and videos from Shanann Watts' social media pages.After introducing the mother of two and her family via clips of holidays and other family moments, the documentary drops a bombshell on viewers: In May of 2018, Shanann revealed to her husband, Chris Watts . The house in CO was purchased under Chriss name, guaranteed by Shanannas mom, and then Shanann was added to the deed later. Its pretty simple. It doesnt appear that there was any history of beating or physical or sexual abuse with them & Chris (that we know of), so what the fuck happened? Ill bet he tried so hard to keep his 401k funded. The Watts family murders occurred in Frederick, Colorado, United States, during the early morning hours of August 13, 2018. They withdraw and distance themselves. Shanann Watts Husband / Shanann Watts Children. r22, I saw some special on tv about the murders, it mentioned medical bills for her. Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background. He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. I hope Chris is released someday, he shouldn't have to spend the rest of his life in prison. Yes . But murder isn't the answer -- & didn't he kill their kids too? Police footage shows the . Interestingly, she (allegedly) dated Chris, and was supposed to tak about what he was like, but all she talked about was Shabann. And she had turned thee dining room into a clothing store with commercial racks filled with clothes. In the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985) murdered his pregnant wife Shanann (34) by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by smothering them. Please click here to update your account with a username and password. And no one to root for except those poor kids. It does seem like a few people are looking to justify her murder so that they don't feel guilty about their attraction to Chris, seriously--but I'm assuming it's mostly tongue in cheek, since even if you can feel sympathy for someone snapping and killing a bitchy frau, there's the two innocent children and all r29 I believe Chris only made 60k/year and Shan'ann MAYBE made anither 30k with the Thrive! Chris Watts is a textbook Malignant-Covert Somatic Narcissist. Before meeting Chris, she was married to a man named Leonard King, and they got divorced in 2009. Unless the new lover is a threat to the kids or is causing financial ruin. to which CW sensibly says "there's no bringing them back. ^ Thanks for clarifying. I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Maybe Shanann was exercising a little self-discipline and not buying dining room furniture till they could afford it?". That router article is amazing . Withdrawal from school because the house would be sold was preparation for divorce; he didn't think anyone would conclude murder. There is a FB group that has mentioned the Munchhausen, but its also something that the famous troll talks about and goofs on, so its been derailed a bit. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. When their marriage was not going so well, SHANANN poured herself into work, worked a lot and stopped coming home at night. r162 I wanna see those pics of "Shannan" posing as a bitch-ho next to the souped up thug rods. But. not likable and i dont care that she is dead. So does anyone who thinks a guy who murdered his whole family should go free because he's marginally attractive and his murdered wife was annoying. But OH MY GOD! I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. Police say the three victims were murdered in their home and later transported to the oil field. "ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. r50 frankly even the kids seemed hard to root for. Today, February 1, was Shannan's due date for her unborn baby. COPS: It was determined that SHANANN WATTS was previously married to LEONARD KING, an attorney in NC. https://www.wltx.com/article/news/slain-mom-2-daughters-had-been-in-sc-just-weeks-before-their-deaths/101-585544417, Was just being nosey and googling, do you think this is the same Arie King in N.C? You seem to like the psychopath label. unless you was there, and Im sure you wasnt. I think he did the world a favor by offing her. I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. Rewatching the confession viedo. I think Nick Der Leek does an outstanding job because he cleverly reviewed the case in its entirety and was able to provide spot on the mental makeup of both Chris and Shannan beginning with being unequally yoked. Shananns worries about her marriage had eaten up her confidence in Chris and their bond together. Mortgages became harder to get after the 08 recession. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. Google 'Bella and Celeste Watts People.com' under Google images. However his mistress and HER boyfriend (Jim Gotuski), should also be in prison for the rest of THEIR lives. After several days of publicly protesting that he had not seen his wife or daughters after leaving for work on Monday, Watts broke down and confessed to the murders on Wednesday, police said. Why was their marriage not going well? Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? R55, Shananns mother signed as a guarantor for their CO home. I would wager that no gay here appreciates that type of reasoning when it goes against your own practices ( as on forums where it's said, they make that choice, nothing excuses it). I dont trust every single thing he said & I still think he cares enough (for whatever reason) about his reputation & how people view him (close friends, family members like his mom & dad, and even Nichol K. and the public) to leave certain things out/fudge the truth about some of the incidents he described. Now, I'm not saying the kids deserved to die - but the wife just seemed like a massive pain in the ass. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280780/shan_ann-cathryn-rzucek, Jan 10 1984 - Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey, United States, Aug 13 2018 - Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United States, Bella Marie Watts, Celeste Cathryn Watts, Nico Lee Watts, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280791/bella-marie-watts, Clifton, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, Frederick, Weld County, Colorado, United States, Bethesda Cemetery, Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States, North Carolina, Mecklenburg County Marriage Index, 1884-2019, Burial of Shan'ann C. King-Watts (Rzucek), Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States. OK, but we're talking about SHAN'ANN now. Does anyone know when she began calling herself Shan'ann and why? The person who deserves the credit for masterminding this sick scheme is Nichol Kessinger. Just bookmarking threads for future reading when I have time. , updated Why the haste to get out of there so quickly? Its very difficult to call out liars unless theres a criminal act like fraud. The underlying issues can be difficult to fully define, and for some, may take several years/ repeat doctor visits. I don't knowdon't strive to live in the suburbs in a big fucking house with a spouse who spends money or one who is mentally unstable and has access to oil vats, and, most importantly, don't fucking have kids. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. She was an odious frau and I could believe she was a Munchausen's case. Selling prescription meds? The Websleuths crazies who want to blame the victim come here. Someone who was asking for a murderous rage. Some features on this site require a subscription. A concerned friend contacted law enforcement after learning of the murders of Shanann Watts and her two young daughter, relaying an unsettling anecdote Shanann had shared with her just weeks before she was killed. And wondering how she could purchase the house on a retail managers salary. He saw no way out of the disastrous mess ( bossy shrew wife with hypochondria, destroying them financially and alienating the children from him while destroying their characters). He learned of this case from social media and news. Shanann Watts and her two young daughters, Celeste and Bella -- who were allegedly killed by Watts' husband the girls' father -- were mourned at their funeral Saturday, along with Watts' unborn son, Nico. Dont get me started on this grifty broad. The fact that the physician performing her autopsy found "no evidence of disease". All i could think of while watching this video, is what was going thru the minds of financially strapped husbands watching their wives spend money they didn't have on these scams? LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. R150 But she was. - they owed. She was previously married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009 . He didnt say much, LE spoke with him briefly the report is in the discovery. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. The 500K was in 2015as of 2018, they were about 100K in debt (student loans, etc.) R130: if you read the discovery, Shannan was willing to change. On Thursday, authorities found three bodies: Shanann was buried in a shallow grave about 40 miles east of their home at a work site belonging to her husband's former employer (which fired him. for your pointless bitchery needs. If you had to list her good points, she had a social life. 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