And of course its possible, that both of them had had brothers and sisters (and (grand-)parents, aunts, uncles and cousins as well). Acts 4:12. According to the Seder HaDorot, the wife and twin sister of Cain was named Kalmana and the wife and twin of Abel was Balbira. The Bible only concerns its self with Gods people and the line through which Christ is brought into the world. A closer look at one of the most enigmatic women in Genesis. Yes, you are right that Genesis 2:7 does not technically say formed FROM the dust, but that is the overall implied meaning. gives my heart no peace. 2 0 Seth, my son bring me thy children and thy childrens children, that I may A year later,. Abel became a herder of flocks, and Cain a tiller of the ground. Yatsar refers to the molding and shaping of an object. I study TNaKh with enthusiasm and wonder as I engage the text not with fear and limitation.In my opinion to look at the text like a fundamentalist does actually denigrates the Bible and makes this wonderful and complex source seem simply stupid. It is folly to be too literal, perhaps the reason Jesus spoke in parables. The Bible then goes on to tell us about their offspring and the famous murder of Abel. In the first chapter, adam is just an appellative name for the entire mankind. Read your Bible again). http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8117915.stm, Modern Culture Over 40,000 Yrs. Cains blood line ever completely ended. If so, the Chinese do Nod when they greet you, could that be the source of the name, the Land of Nod. God created them to be a legacy He wanted children with His Heart and His thoughts, and His powers (eventually) But they failed the test. Lenins ideology was inspired by Darwins Origin of Species: Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of higher animals, directly follows (Darwin 1886). THAT ALL BUT PROVES DISSEMINATION FROM ONE ORIGINAL SOURCE. The Flat Earth model is an archaic belief that the Earths shape is a plane or disk. I find it amazing that people get so caught up in religious teachings that they dont even want to hear what someone else has to say or accept solid scientific facts. Somehow Moses knew what the land looked like at least 16,000 years before he was born. Genesis 25:24-26 ESV / 2 helpful votesNot Helpful. Likewise, your sentence structure There is no where made mentioning of Adam and Eve having any daughters in the generations of Adam,In Genesis 5:1-4, Seth is the one being made mentioning of as having sons and daughters in Verse 4, Not Adam, shows that you are basing the idea of no daughters, on verses 1-4. Also the used verbs of the first chapter (asah, bara) have completely different meanings as those (jatzar, banah) of the second one. They also had boats falling off the edge of the earth if you sailed too close the the edge, when their world was flat. Cains wife only could come from the land of Nod (I remind Gen. 1.26-31). My book tells you all that, Historical Genesis from Adam to Abraham. The Bible doesnt say how God made the sea creatures. If the Bible is silent on a topic it was either know by everyone and was insignificant to pass on or God deemed it unimportant to reveal to His prophets. @robert The Bible, at Job 26:7, speaks of God as hanging the earth upon nothing. Science says that the earth remains in its orbit in space primarily because of the interaction of gravity and centrifugal force. From the above, we can rightly conclude that Cains wife was a descendant of Eve born on an unknown date. After all, why, at such an early stage in the history of mankind, would some alleged tribe, with no direct connection, have the slightest interest in the murder of an unknown person?! In Isaiah 22:18 dur refers to a bundle, not a ball. As others of Adams and Eves siblings would have, similarly, married, the population would undoubtedly have expanded in exponential terms. Gen. 3:20: Adam called his wifes name Eve, because she had to become the mother of everyone living. & verse 9 says, And Cain took wn his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. Afterward Cain had intercourse with his wife [knew his wife, that is, intimately so, KJ, RS; lay with his wife, NE] and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. (Notice that Cain did not first meet his wife in the land to which he fled, as if she were from another family. Thus what say you now? Youre adding and detracting from the Bible. I fully believe that Christ was God in the flesh and was the atonement for my sins to reconcile me with a holy God, my Father in heaven. Fountain of Lamneth, by Rush. In the first statement you propose evolution which, like the last statement uses natural reproduction. 4 4. Btw: The 6000 years often referred to as the time since creation, is in fact the age of Adams bloodline. Poor Mervyn, A lie doesnt become truer by believing in, thats it. I've read. Ladies and gentlemen, you are missing the big picture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_man_of_the_Hohlenstein_Stadel These terms for soul and breath are used interchangably in the Old Testament, and in the Canaanite Tale of Aquat , Aquats murder at the hands of a drunken soldier is described in similar terms as Genesis 2:7: His breath escaped like wind, his soul like vapor, like smoke from his nostrils. The Adam of Genesis 2 represents our human potential before the fall, of which Jesus refered to when he said, He that excersizes faith in me, that one also will do the works that I do; and he will do works greater than these, because I am going my way to the Father (John 14:12). Thank you Lord for Noah So we should heed Pauls counsel to Timothy (1 Tim 6:3-5) do not be teachers of things contrary to the Christ. Assuming that Adrian and Menashe are still talking about Genesis 1 and 2, there are no glitches.. Abraham wasnt a jew, etcetcThe jews are one tribe And yes, it's cruel that God rejected Cain's offering without giving a good reason and found favor in his brother's instead. Throwing darts at at a map and hoping one will stick. Cain married his own (younger) sister! the reason Cain and Abel are written in there is because of the sin Cain committed, before the event of Cain killing his brother Abel, no man had ever taken a life. The fundamentalists commenting here complain about theologically liberal materials and that people are not taking the bible literally and that they are denigrating it. We can tell what the verse means by comparing these verses: I hope some people history werent written in the Bible and Cain havent his sister. There were no other womenjust one woman, Eve. They agree with the word definitions which I have been using. Please note that isch & ischah have different meanings as zakar & neqebah. I just hate how the article tries to weave lies in to truth..ie theres no actual evidence the bible supports people outside of creation just because they want to make it look like it does. I've been re-reading the pragmatic genesis series. Of course, Gen. 2.7 is in the womb too. It has been suggested that the vicinity of Beer Lachai Roi (Well of the Seeing One) where the angel appeared to Hagar, had become a shrine to which Isaac visited when he was meditating (suach) in the field in Genesis 24:62 (Meditation and the Bible, by Aryeh Kaplan, p.101). Asa and banah refer to the action of building an object, by definition, out of existing material. Depensa, It is this evidence (largely found in a series of events and dialogues recorded in the Book of Genesis which, it is proposed, has been somewhat neglected or overlooked in biblical scholarship) that is examined in this book. I know Jewish sources are not the Word of God, but you said that old Hebrews would laugh at the idea of humans being made out of dust or mud. Of course Adam was the first Biblically recorded agriculturalist, hes the first man. When McCain married Carol Shepp in 1965 he adopted her sons, Doug and Andy, whom she had during her first marriage. What is the meaning of the parable of the rich man and his manager? http://www.pnas.org/content/112/39/12075.full, Domestic Dogs 33,000 and 36,000 Yrs. Gen. 3:19 until you return (shub) to (el) the ground (adamah), because from (min) it you were taken (laqach), because dust (aphar) you are and to (el) dust (aphar) you will return (shub). Why do we want to create or write our own bible?The bible clearly states his wife came from the land of Nod. In the earliest part of the Zohar, humans have an animal soul (nephesh) whose desires are the source of sin, and and intellectual soul (neshamah) that functions to serve as a stimulus to religious activity. By the way the Greek translation (LXX) agrees and uses a singular personal pronoun for him and a plural personal pronoun for them. It was these near relatives of whom Cain was afraid. They establish that earth was covered by water at its creation and that God set a boundary, the land masses, which the water could never again cover over. It Is So Painful to Care: How Do I Conquer Apathy? Cain would have married a close relative. The provider. If every account were to be written, the Bible could be so big the world couldnt contain it. Man without Christ is not a living soul. . So Can married one of his own sisters. Once, when she was denied a rental car in . out of 12 whom the jews have managed to deceive the entire Cain since enlisted help from his estranged brother Caleb in the battle . The most likely translation would include an implied of, as found in many English translations (see below). After some 2,500 years of human history, however, when mankinds physical condition had greatly deteriorated, Jehovah gave to Israel laws forbidding incest.) THIS man and his wife Chavah Eve were LIVING souls. Many ancient cultures have had conceptions of a flat Earth, including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India until the Gupta period (early centuries AD) and China until the 17th century. Remember that the law against close intermarriage was not given until the time of Mosese.g. From the dust refers to Adams material texture, while the verb jatzar refers to the emerging from the womb. 3 responses Asking about Cains wife is like asking about Cinderellas hairdresser. The sons these sisters bore would start two tribes related to but frequently in conflict with Israel: the Moabites and Ammonites. The book of Genesis mentions three of Adam and Eve's children: Cain, Abel and Seth. Including Cains marriage in a nearby town etc. So, since all humans on the planet earth came from Adam and Eve, and Cain had a human wife, and all humans were already outside the garden of Eden, therefore the proper conclusion, one borne by the revelation of the God the Holy Spirit, is that Cains wife, whom he took from the people outside the garden, was also a descendant of Adam and Eve. - Yahshua Christ. We have to understand the account of people in the Bible. Adam had many children, so marriage was not a problem as mutations only appeared in the time of Leviticus 18:6 (2500 year later) where God prohibited inter-family relations. Neither the Bible nor the church taught that you would fall off the edge of the world. The effect that genetics and heredity have on us might not have been a factor for them. All descendants not of Adams line would not have been eligible for forgiveness, but they would have still been subject to the condemnation of creation. Cain and Abel. Four highly acclaimed books, published in conjunction with the Smithsonian Institution: Aspects of Monotheism, Feminist Approaches to the Bible, The Rise of Ancient Israel and The Search for Jesus. Genesis 2 focuses in on day six and the creation of humans. He redeemed the sin committed by Lots daughters. 4 But when our father Adam saw them around him, he wept at having to be came from beyond Eden. This state might be described as a partial legacy of the Garden of Eden, pointing to the first love which God had originally intended for the first couple he created in Paradise. There is evidence that Adam and eve lived out of Bible . Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel we know. Source: Insider . Eve became the mother of all living souls. It doesnt matter if its been a few thousand years if we all came from the same dna there will be no alteration no matter how long the time period, you know hence why people can trace their family lineages using dna. However, my grandparents, from well respected English families, were married in 1917 in England and they were first cousins. [6] In 1945, the misconception was listed by the Historical Association (of Britain) as the second of 20 in a pamphlet on common errors in history. There were the fallen angels and their species living out side the garden. There isnt an only passage in the entire bible that calls Adam and Eve the first humans. Any inquisitive child asks the same question. DNA and genes can tell alot about living and dead organisms. https://www.academia.edu/10440502/Cosmogonies_and_Theogonies. God commanded humanity to be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:28; 9:1) and thus it was necessary to marry ones own relative. As long as Adam and Eve were alive, does anyone really believe that Cain, Abel and Seth were their only children? Cains wife was a descendent of Adam and Eve. How would anyone know and be able to pass on an accurate description of what happened so many generations before there was a written word? In Gen. 1 man is told to subdue and rule over the earth and that he plants and that animals also ate plants. 27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created THEM. Im definitely an advocate in the case for God. In His wisdom, there are some things a bit difficult to reconcile. They clearly saw this in tombs. And the majority doesnt count, as well. This story was ancient before the Israelites even went into captivity. It is likely that Cain married a sister. Also, Bible made no connection of the incidence with Adam and Eve. The preadamites were transient hunters-gatherers. Date of Birth. That does not fit the context or the wording. Where did all these people in Nod come from if Adam and Eve are the original people created? It literally says they had other sons and daughters, it literally says Cain married and had children. So the real problem is that too few people want to read the bible and believe it literally. SCIENCE IS BELIEVING WHAT EVIDENCE IS AVAILABLE RATHER THAN THE PERCEIVED ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE. Adam, Cain, Abraham, Moses- all nicknames. Please show me in the text where you are getting your ideas. Jesus traced his lineage back to Ruth through the line of His adopted father, Joseph. Its all fiction/myth (the creation story), so the answer, if there is one, doesnt even matter. He built brand new creatures (being both physical and spiritual) of the dust from the earth and a rib, and shaped them into the human form. to the fountain of Lamneth. As currency for exchange in this transaction, could the girls have questioned their value, their identity, and the unity between husband and wife which sex was intended to foster? It is the instinctive power of feeling and action needed to sustain the body (Essential Papers on Kabbalah, by Lawrence Fine, p.120). The Bible said that Cain went to Nod. Hello Fatima, the bible did not states his wife came from the land of Nod The bible say that Cain went to the land of Nod and knew his wife and not that he marry his wife. If Adam was made originally with everything then must have a curved body similar to that of a woman. This happens at the beginning of the seventh day. You said preadamites, are you a gap-theorist? What does an appellative form verses a proper name have to do with what I have said? Report. People in the ancient Near East typically stayed close to home, which affected their perception of the world. This statement was extracted from the section of the Zohar Hadash, Bereshith, 16a-16c, also known as the Midrash ha-Neelam. 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